"K-Roll-PorscheTamer" (k-roll390)
11/29/2014 at 10:59 • Filed to: 944 Lyfe | 1 | 70 |
While in "winter-hideaway" mode, I'm going to share with you the one special thing I love about my 944, the seats! :D
Now, the only time I've shown you my 944's seats was in this picture and some other rubbish ones:
But now, behold what's underneath those seats: Option M410 - sports seats seat/backrest cloth/leatherette !!(Not the most epic name, that's for sure)
(The driver's seat is worn on the left side bolster from 30 years of getting in and out of the car)
These seats, aside from the car's great condition and mechanical shape are the reason I got this car; just look at them!
The seat is primary grey cloth base and back with leatherette bolsters and backing. The quality is fantastic and the seats feel new. They look almost perfect and like no one ever sat in them.
The seats are aggressively bolstered and hug you perfectly around corners; much more than the base seats on my FoST; and more like the Recaros you can get with the FoST and FiST. These seats are perfect for a track day and autoX bro.
Also, the other special thing about these seats, is the "Porsche" script on the cloth portions of the seat. It's very 80s, so stylish, much Porsche.
And the same goes for the rear buckets too!
The other thing you 'ought to know, is that these seats are worth 1/3 the price of my car! That's right, in perfect condition, these seats fetch at least $1k easily because they're highly sought after, but they can be had between $500-1200 depending on the condition and who's selling them usually.
So, what do you think of my seats? :)
Is there anything you'd like to see me write about next, let me know!
sm70- why not Duesenberg?
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 11:10 | 1 |
Seats aside, I love that steering wheel.
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> sm70- why not Duesenberg?
11/29/2014 at 11:10 | 1 |
Me too! :D
Brian Silvestro
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 11:16 | 0 |
"These seats are perfect for a track day and autoX bro."
Then take it to one of those!
Scary__goongala!
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 11:19 | 0 |
I think these seats will actually fit in a NA. I believe elise/exige and these ones are like the only OEM seats that will. And is your ebrake really on the left of the drivers seat?
CAcoalminer
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 11:20 | 0 |
Very nice seats.
Since you already have the one on the right, when do you intend to get the one on the left?
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> Brian Silvestro
11/29/2014 at 11:24 | 0 |
It's winter dammit! That's not happening for another year!!
You seriously have an addiction sir.
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> Scary__goongala!
11/29/2014 at 11:25 | 0 |
Yes, that's where it is. Same with all 924/944/968 cars unfortunately.
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> CAcoalminer
11/29/2014 at 11:26 | 0 |
Well, technically, I've got neither. The one on the right is a Turbo/951, and the one on the right is too much of a BOSS for me to ever own.
CAcoalminer
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 11:27 | 0 |
Oh. Well that shows how much I know about the 944's family tree. Haha
Have you ever tried sitting in the back seat of the 944?
Scary__goongala!
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 11:28 | 1 |
If I tried to drive one of those cars Id definitely be reaching for an imaginary brake next to the shifter multiple times.
Brian Silvestro
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 11:30 | 0 |
Obviously not now. And not in a year either, because in a year it'll be winter.
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> CAcoalminer
11/29/2014 at 11:34 | 0 |
I have, and a 911, and me being 5'10", I can fit.
So long as no one is sitting in front. ;)
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> Scary__goongala!
11/29/2014 at 11:35 | 1 |
I don't blame you, it's almost hidden under the seat, out of sight and out of mind, if I forget about the brake, I just park it in 3rd.
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> Brian Silvestro
11/29/2014 at 11:36 | 0 |
You get my point, stop avoiding the fact sir. :p
Bandit
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 11:45 | 0 |
I love those seats. The father of an ex of mine has a 944 with those seats and allowed me to sit in it once. My god they are the best seats ever. Bolstering for days!!!
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> Bandit
11/29/2014 at 11:48 | 1 |
Just once? You could sleep in those seats no problem! :D
SO MUCH BOLSTERING!!
When I'm driving around daily, the seats are covered, but when I go to car shows and whatnot next year, the covers will be off for sure!
Bandit
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 11:50 | 1 |
Well by "allowed" I mean, I was looking after his house while he was on vacation so I took the liberty of sitting in it for a bit. That car combined with the minty 944 turbo owned by another guy I know has made me want one.
PS9
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 11:51 | 0 |
You know...you don't have to put it away for the winter...
CAcoalminer
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 11:52 | 0 |
I see. So, basically it's just there for items, not people.
How does the shifter and clutch in the 944 compare to your Focus's?
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> Bandit
11/29/2014 at 11:53 | 0 |
That's good enough for me. :)
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> CAcoalminer
11/29/2014 at 11:57 | 0 |
Apparently it was there for insurance/small kids way back when. 4 seats would apparently lower insurance compared to a 2-seater? But those seats do fold down for more space. :)
The shifter and clutch in the 944 is ONE MILLION TIMES BETTER than the Focus, I can actually feel it. The Focus' is too soft, to easy and has no feel in comparison and took me a week to readjust to. I don't like it at all and I assume that's how all new cars of it's type are. -_-
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> PS9
11/29/2014 at 12:00 | 0 |
But I am , so I will. :p
PS9
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 12:01 | 0 |
But think of all the snowy hoonage you're missing out on!
CAcoalminer
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 12:05 | 0 |
That makes since. How is the storage space in the 944?
That's very interesting but not unexpected. For instance, I've heard the 997+ GT3 owners like to install the Cup car cables on their vehicles for more feel. Thankfully, it sounds like the new Z06 and Viper have good shifters. Have you driven the new Mustang?
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> PS9
11/29/2014 at 12:14 | 0 |
But think of all the salt and rust I'm avoiding! In a state where they drop salt like this:
Brian Silvestro
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 12:20 | 0 |
My point is that I don't think you're ever going to do it
Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 12:26 | 0 |
Huh. I never knew 944s had rear seats. They're probably impossible to in, though, right?
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> Brian Silvestro
11/29/2014 at 12:36 | 0 |
I bet you a million quid I will.
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage
11/29/2014 at 12:37 | 0 |
Not at all, I can fit in the back if no ones sitting in the front.
Brian Silvestro
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 12:40 | 0 |
QUID IS WORTHLESS HERE
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> Brian Silvestro
11/29/2014 at 12:42 | 0 |
I bet you a drive in the Boxtser and a James May sticker on your FiST I'll do it next summer.
Brian Silvestro
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 12:44 | 0 |
I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER WHO DRIVES THE BOXSTER
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> Brian Silvestro
11/29/2014 at 12:49 | 0 |
Then a James May sticker on the FiST it is then!!
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> CAcoalminer
11/29/2014 at 12:53 | 0 |
I'm sorry, I got sidetracked. :(
Storage is excellent on the 944, I can fit everything I need in the hatch.
On my dad's 911, I love the cable clutch feel, it's more connecting and feeling than any other car I've driven period.
I must drive the new Mustang, I want to go to a dealer for the sake of a test drive and nothing else, but I fear it wouldn't happen. I've never driven any Mustang before. :(
What about you?
Brian Silvestro
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 12:56 | 0 |
Can we just not bet at all?
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> Brian Silvestro
11/29/2014 at 12:57 | 0 |
We could, but where's the fun in that?
Brian Silvestro
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 12:59 | 0 |
The track. That's where the fun is.
CAcoalminer
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 13:00 | 1 |
It's no problem at all. I just wanted to make sure you saw it.
That's good to know.
Interesting. Is is stock?
Oh. Well, I hope that you enjoy it.
No, I haven't driven the new Mustang either.
Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 13:03 | 0 |
Seriously? That's a rarity for most 2+2s.
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> Brian Silvestro
11/29/2014 at 13:10 | 0 |
So you'll put the sticker on at ze track ;)
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage
11/29/2014 at 13:11 | 1 |
That's why I said, "you only fit if no one is sitting in the front". :P
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> CAcoalminer
11/29/2014 at 13:12 | 0 |
It's all stock aside from an aftermarket radio and cruise control that I never use.
Thanks very much. :)
Have you driven any Mustang before?
CAcoalminer
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 13:16 | 0 |
Very nice. Was it difficult to add the cruise control?
You're welcome.
I haven't driven any of the modern ones. Just the old ones from the '60s and early '70s.
Brian Silvestro
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 13:17 | 0 |
I'm lost
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> CAcoalminer
11/29/2014 at 13:17 | 0 |
The 1st owner put in the cruise control and radio, I'm the 3rd owner.
I'd love to here everything about the '60s and '70s cars. What can you tell me about them all? Which ones did you drive?
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> Brian Silvestro
11/29/2014 at 13:19 | 1 |
I said I'd bet you a James May sticker I'd track day bro: If I track day, you put the sticker on the FiST, and if I don't, I'll put the sticker on one of my cars.
Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 13:33 | 1 |
Oh, I gotcha :D At least you have rear seats, even if they aren't really practical!
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage
11/29/2014 at 13:39 | 1 |
This is true! And they fold down for more storage space too!
Tuned-Port-Injected-Rage
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 14:13 | 1 |
DAT EXTRA PRACTICALITY THO
CAcoalminer
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 14:17 | 1 |
Ah, I see.
For starters, modern vehicles are better in every conceivable measure. That being said, that doesn't make them better cars. For instance, these old Mustangs forced you to become a better driver. All of the controls required real effort to operate. Therefore, after taking one for a spirited drive, you might be a little sweaty and your body would probably ache but you felt like you actually accomplished something. With modern vehicles you have so many systems helping you out that there is a very small learning curve. Almost anyone can jump in them and immediately extract around 70% of their potential. With these old cars, you had to put in the time to really learn their nuances and had to be a truly skilled driver to consistently reach these cars' potentials. In addition, engines sounded great from the factory. I feel like these days you have engineers whose sole job is to "tune" the sound of the engine which is why modern cars like the 458 have a syntheticness about them. Finally, I feel like those cars forced you to actually know about your vehicle. They weren't terrible on reliability but they did require preventative maintenance to insure that they performed well. Therefore, I really feel like owners actually knew the ins and outs of these vehicles and would work on them themselves much more often. In contrast, modern owners just take their cars to the dealership if something is wrong. Sorry if this sounds like a rant. The interesting ones were the '65 GT350R, '67 and '69 GT, GT350, and GT500, and '71 Mach 1.
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> CAcoalminer
11/29/2014 at 20:42 | 0 |
That is exactly what I'm on about! I love driving cars that further my experience as a driver! I want to become a better driver, not have a car be better than I. I love the effort, I love the work it requires, I want that in a daily driver, and to me, it seems like the only way to accomplish that is to get a completely different car than what I'm used to(i.e. FWD hatchbacks and a 944) A Mustang would be the perfect example of an American driver's car. It seems as though sports cars are the last real cars that can give me, you,, or anyone that feeling, which is why I want one so bad, other than the fact that they look so good! :D
This wasn't just a rant, this was an outcry for what we're missing in our modern and lazy(easy-off) society! I love it! :)
Of the cars you've driven, I'm very most interested in the '67 GT, GT350/GT350-R, and '71 Mach 1. How'd the '71 feel? did it feel as big as a boat as it's design and look kind of shows? I think it looks gorgeous. Any particular differences between the 350 and 350-R?
CAcoalminer
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 21:40 | 1 |
I'm glad you seem to think like I do. It's unfortunate that there aren't more of us.
I wouldn't describe the '71 as a boat but you definitely do notice the weight gain over its predecessors (around 200 lb. if I remember correctly). That being said, I'm sure with a modern suspension kit and modern brakes (the biggest area that classics are lacking) they could perform quite well. I find the '71 to be decent looking but actually prefer the '69 Mach 1.
Concerning the GT350 R, you would be surprised at how different it is to the stock one. It didn't have a heater, defroster, interior upholstery, interior headliner, insulation, or sound deadening material. In addition, it had made between 325-360 hp and had plexiglass side and rear windows, four-point roll cage, high capacity oil pan, competition bucket seats, modified Holley carburetor, among others. Essentially, it was a race car and it really did show. I think the biggest difference between the "R" and its street sibling is the suspension. You just get so much less dive and leaning in the corners and compared to cars of the day, the street version was already very good in both of these areas. In addition, the sound of that 289 being revved out is absolutely glorious. Of the Mustangs I've driven, the GT350 R is by far my favorite handling wise. For looks, I would have to go with the '67 GT500 in Dark Moss Green.
Do you have a favorite classic Mustang?
Great source for GT350 R info:
http://mustangs.about.com/od/1965/a/Shel…
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> CAcoalminer
11/29/2014 at 21:58 | 0 |
Most people think I'm stubborn and not accepting of improvements and change; they couldn't be more wrong. I'm alright with change, so long as it isn't anything unnecessary and drastic, or it's sole purpose is to make life easier, which for cars, only seems to prevent stupidity, and even that cannot be helped sometimes.
I assume the '71 felt slower than the other cars because of the weight? I understand that it was right at the end of the "classic muscle car" era before the oil crisis of the 70s and emissions nonsense happened.
So the GT350-R was a more "race-inspired/oriented" variant of the GT350 then, I'd love to see Ford do that with the new GT350. What kinda motor did the GT350s have? Was it different between the two spec-wise?
My favorite classic Mustang would have to be a '67-68 GT fastback in orange, but I'm not sure what the specific color is:
That rear end is simply perfect, and it's that key area(believe it or not) that I love the 2015 so much! It's a modern take on such a timeless design.
CAcoalminer
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 22:46 | 0 |
You have a good mindset.
Yes, the '71 is slower than the others because of its added weight and similar engines. Unfortunately, the '70s brought us the an era of terrible vehicles that should never have been referred to as a Mustang.
Yes, it was. I would assume that the new GT350 R will have a little less weight, potentially a bit more power, a more aggressive aero kit, a multi adjustable suspension, and potentially carbon ceramic brakes. The original GT350 and R had a High Performance 289 with an aluminum high-rise intake manifold, Holley four-barrel carburetor, Tri-Y headers, and a glasspack dual exhaust system. The big difference between the standard GT350 and the R is the race prepped version of the 715 CFM single four-barrel Holley carburetor. The standard GT350 only had about 300 hp where as the R had 325-360.
Very nice choice. I'm not sure what color that is but here is the colors for that year.
http://mustangattitude.com/cgi-bin/colorc…
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> CAcoalminer
11/29/2014 at 23:08 | 0 |
Thanks, I appreciate it, especially knowing that it's coming from someone that understands exactly what I'm talking about. You're definitely right, it's getting harder and harder to find people with such a mindset or similar opinions like ours. :(
I must assume though, that out of all of the Mustangs, the '71 must have been the most comfortable to drive, more softer and tolerable as it appears that Ford "lost their way" and the sportiness of the original cars went away by the '70s.
I can only imagine how much further they could go with the GT350 as a base. I imagine that the R-model would also be a super-track oriented model of sorts , with even more weight savings, carbon fiber, and carbon ceramic breaks; I bet they'll go with the Porsche mindset of, "charge more for less" haha. I'd love to learn more about mechanics and parts inside motors just like that. It'd be one of the best experiences of my life if I could have an opportunity to get my hands dirty and get around engines like this. :)
I've actually found a link to the story of the orange car I posted, very interesting story to say the least: http://www.mustangandfords.com/featured-vehic…
Also, here's a more "emotional"-based question of sorts. Is there any shame in wanting or having a V6 Mustang from a car enthusiast/emotional standpoint? It's no slouch as it was in the "dark ages", but it's no V8 either. If you could only afford a V6, how would you feel compared to the people with V8s? Would you see it worth modding, or making it faster or better handling, would you try to outdo a GT?
The older cars had an Inline-6, I wish they still did, no one can mock an inline-6 because it's special and so different, like a boxer engine.
CAcoalminer
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/29/2014 at 23:26 | 0 |
You're welcome.'
It was indeed. The '71 was something like 3 inches wider and much more focused on comfort.
I think you're on the right track. Definitely less equipment for more money. I really hope someone does an in depth video about this new 5.2L V8 as it would be absolutely fascinating. Being able to work on one would be terrific.
Very interesting story. It's always great to find interesting cars.
I don't think so. As you said, the V6 are very good engines. If anyone haggles you that you didn't get the V8 than they're just being jerks. Yes, you might not have the same amount of power as the V8 but you can feel comfortable knowing that you have a new car that you can afford. Also, I think it is worth modding and should be a good platform because it should be a bit lighter than the V8.
It would be interesting to see a modern mustang with a I6.
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> CAcoalminer
11/29/2014 at 23:52 | 0 |
Did the '71, being a Mach 1, have any particular sporty add-ons or parts that gave it any improvements in the handling department over a regular '71?
Here's to hoping for said in-depth review and look at the 5.2! Have you seen any of Saabkyle04's videos? I find them to be very informative and entertaining; especially when looking to purchase a new or old vehicle.
It's true, the V6 is a tried and true workhorse, but it's just got that stigma, something in the back of my head that stops me every time I think about it; and I think that's because I know I want the big V8, it's wether or not I can afford it or wait for it. If I don't wait, like I did with the ST, I'll be cheating myself out of something more. I wouldn't be satisfied.
I'd love a modern reimagining or reincarnation of the I6: naturally aspirated or turbo/supercharged, making more than 300 rampaging stallions.
CAcoalminer
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/30/2014 at 00:11 | 0 |
As far as handling improvements, I can't really think of any off the top of my head. The biggest differences were the body add ons and engine options.
I have seen some of his videos. They are great because he literally shows you everything about a vehicle so you go into the dealership being well informed.
I can understand that. It sounds like the V8 is definitely the vehicle for you.
That would be quite an interesting set up. The only problem I see is if it would be able to fit under the hood.
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> CAcoalminer
11/30/2014 at 00:35 | 0 |
That's a shame. If I recall, wasn't the Mach 1 a race-inspired vehicle? I'd think suspension would be an important topic, but I could be wrong. I'll need to read up on it.
I watch at least two of his videos every day.
I think you're right. V8 or nothing, must keep on track.
I see your point there, because V-engines have a lower height than an inline motor correct? The I6 would have to sit lower to fit, and also whether or not the engine bay is long enough to accommodate it.
All interesting points for sure. Im off to bed for the night, tennis in the morning; Id like to correspond further on this topic later though. :)
CAcoalminer
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
11/30/2014 at 00:56 | 0 |
Well, I know the '60s cars did have upgraded suspensions and shock tower reinforcements depending on the engines but I'm not positive about the '71s.
Oh wow. I was fairly impressed with the Enzo one. Which one is your favorite?
Indeed. Just stay focused and I'm sure you'll be there in no time.
I believe so. However, as you mentioned, the biggest thing is making sure they fit length wise.
Goodnight and enjoy tennis in the morning. I look forward to our future conversations.
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> CAcoalminer
12/03/2014 at 16:47 | 0 |
I'm so sorry! I made a promise I forgot to keep. :(
Let's continue this conversation please.
I enjoyed the Enzo video very much. My favorite(s) would have to be the Aventador videos, the 991 50th Anniversary and Turbo S videos, the 2015 Mustang, 2013 GT500, and 1970 Mach 1 videos, and the C7 Stingray video. The luxury cars(Bentley and Rolls), don't interest me much.
The oddity out of all of them that I enjoyed though, would be the Mclaren MP4-12-C. It's an interesting car, that. I watched the review on Top Gear and it appears to be the most perfect, cleanest supercar money can buy; like a Trijicon dot sight, very precise haha.
Patience is so very difficult, I don't understand why it has to be, why can't patience be easier?
So it's all down to architecture of engines when fitment is an issue. I saw a video of the previous generation Mustang with a Vanquish V12 motor; so if that can fit in the bonnet of the outgoing car, I'd assume that it'd fit in the new one, then We've got ourselves one heck of an exotic pony haha! :D
CAcoalminer
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
12/03/2014 at 17:46 | 1 |
No need to apologize. We all get busy.
Haha. I should have guessed what cars you would like.
The McLaren 12c is quite an interesting car. It appears to combine everything that is perfect about a supercar with a comfortable suspension to make it great for long journeys.
Probably because we understand that our time on this Earth is finite.
Wow. I'm quite surprised that the V12 would fit. Unfortunately, I've always been unimpressed with Aston's V12s since they seem to be underpowered. The new one is only making 565 hp and 457 lb. ft. while Ferrari was making 661 hp and 460 lb. ft. in the 599 GTO.
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> CAcoalminer
12/03/2014 at 21:39 | 0 |
Yeah haha, I suppose I'm rather predictable now aren't I.
The weird thing is, and I have no experience with the 12C or any supercar really, but it's so composed and precise in all the videos I've seen, it almost seems like it'd be rather boring in the sense that it's so computerized that absolutely nothing could go wrong.
That is so very true, must make the best of what time we've got and do what we can to make the most of it. :(
I don't know much about Aston, perhaps you could enlighten me? Is it true that it's actually two V6s put together?
CAcoalminer
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
12/03/2014 at 22:14 | 0 |
But in a good way. Do you have a favorite modern supercar?
Well, it is like any other supercar these days. They have a ton of systems that allow the driver to explore the limits of the vehicle without hurting themselves. However, when you turn off the systems, you definitely need to be very focused.
Indeed.
Well, Aston has always made beautiful vehicles but they haven't always been at the top of their game when it comes to new technology. Take for instance the fact that the Vantage, DB9, and DBS all used a Volvo navigation system until 2012 which was replaced with a Garmin unit. In addition, the fact that they're putting a ZF 8-speed transmission that shifts in 130 milliseconds in a $280,000 Vanquish is a bit frustrating when the Ferrari F12 which is only $40,000 more does it in 60 or less. I honestly hope Mercedes buys them out so that Aston can finally have access to completely new technologies and finally has the cash to develop a thoroughly competitive vehicle, not just a good looking one. Concerning the two V6s put together story, I'm not certain as I've heard both sides of it before. However, I honestly wouldn't be terribly surprised if it was true. I wrote this a few months ago and you may find it interesting:
http://oppositelock.jalopnik.com/aston-martin-i…
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> CAcoalminer
12/03/2014 at 23:37 | 0 |
Oh my, favorite supercar....I don't know. I guess the Huracan? In terms of looks that is.
Can you actually disable every single system on modern supercars? I always thought that no matter what you do, there'll always be some nanny system in the background..
So is Aston the lower-end supercar manufacturer then?
CAcoalminer
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
12/03/2014 at 23:56 | 1 |
A fine choice.
With supercars, yes. However, some, like the Gallardo and new Huracan, are set up to understeer at the limit so getting them to "move around" can be difficult.
It depends on what you're evaluating it on. On the basis of interiors, Aston is actually one of the best as their interiors are exquisite looking and are made with very nice materials. In addition, they're quite good at fine tuning as their carbon brakes are consistently rated as having the best feel and their suspensions are the perfect mix of handling ability and highway cruising comfort. However, in terms of new technologies, they are quite behind. Their chassis the "VH architecture" is over 12 years old now and their V12 engine is even older. So in terms of performance, they are also quite far behind their rivals. However, I feel that these last two facts are mainly due to the fact that they don't have a strategic partner to share costs with. If you look at all of their competition, they are all part of huge conglomerates and therefore have access to money and technology.
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> CAcoalminer
12/04/2014 at 00:47 | 0 |
Fascinating, Aston is. It's one of those iconic and popular brands, and yet I know nothing about them. I did watch Goldfinger at work Sunday, and saw and heard the DB5; that car is something else!
CAcoalminer
> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
12/04/2014 at 00:57 | 1 |
I'm sure you're not the only one.
Yes, the DB5 is probably the highlight of the company. Also, in case you're wondering, "DB" stands for David Brown, the owner of Aston at the time.
K-Roll-PorscheTamer
> CAcoalminer
12/04/2014 at 01:08 | 0 |
Could they bring back the DB5 perhaps?
And I never would have guessed that's what the "DB" stands for!
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> K-Roll-PorscheTamer
12/04/2014 at 01:17 | 0 |
The name? Absolutely, but they probably won't because of how their naming structure goes. It started with the DB1 and then went DB2, DB4, DB5, DB6, DB7, and currently we have the DB9. The DB7 and DB9 were both produced after David Brown had relinquished ownership. However, if you're referring to making cars exactly like the DB5, I would say no. The reason being that they would not meet modern safety standards.
You learn something new every day.